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Pigeon and Red TrucksPosted by Twelvebit (Victoria, United States) on 7 June 2007 in Animal & Insect. A pigeon on the Lake Austin pedestrian bridge.
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danthro from Suburbia, United Statesno one's commented on this? this is a really great shot. great composition, dof, detail. and of course it's cute! 2 Apr 2008 4:22pm @danthro: Many thanks. This one has gotten no traction anywhere I've posted it. But what I've noticed looking at many of the blogs on Animus, and at other places, is that my own feelings about what is good are often not in sync with those leaving comments. This is particularly true with regard to my own photos. My personal favorites are often the shots that are least appreciated by everyone else. I've been somewhat surprised by this because I thought people who were involved with photography would have vastly different tastes than the general population. However, the same kinds of conventional shots that are popular with other audiences --sunsets, flowers, pets, children, attractive women-- are popular here at Animus. They're also popular at other sites, like JPG Magazine, that claim to be unconventional. I'm not complaining, just observing. Part of my motive in posting here and other places is to get a sense of what other people find appealing. I'm also not immune from finding some of the more conventional shots compelling myself. At JPG Mag people mark favorites, and I sometimes find myself marking an image a favorite that has also had great appeal to others. However, in the more general run of things, I find the images at a site like File Magazine more interesting than the more conventional stuff --though I suppose you can consider File Magazine to just be expressing a different convention. danthro from Suburbia, United Statesi think you have a good point. i know a number of my favorite shots are ones that other people didn't respond as well to, but some of them are ones that people seemed to love. i think the more i learn about and understand how people get these great photos of sunsets and flowers and cetera, the less impressed i become by them -- i remember before i knew what hdr was i'd see them on blogs and think these people were really really great photographers and wonder how they managed to get such amazing photos with that light and detail, and then someone responded and told me he just used 'hdr', once i read about it it didn't seem quite so much like those were necessarily the really great photos. same thing with a lot of things from contrast to vignetting to -- wait for it -- desaturating color. :) i think about aminus3 is also a lot of the people are just members of the general population like me who just got a camera and started shooting and posting, so it makes sense that a lot of our tastes aren't that different from the general public. at the same time, when i look at a site like VFXY and see what the top photoblogs are, they all seem to share a lot of similarities in styles of processing (though they all have differences in style too). they're not novices but they do get their high ranking to a great extent from votes and visits of other photobloggers. anyway i'm not entirely sure what i'm getting at, but what i've been trying to remind myself is that it's great if one has the skill to capture/create photos that are aesthetically pleasing whether to a few people or a lot of people, whether just capturing a pretty place, person, color, texture, or even sometimes an interesting or funny moment/feeling, but it would be great to have more substance or purpose to my photos. one way i was starting to think about doing that is more series, and less about one individual shot. i haven't really looked at jpg and not at all at file mag, but someone recently told me about this thing call slideluck potshow (i think it's just slideluckpotshow.com) and there were a few series there that really got me thinking about different issues. that sort of hit me over the head with how the frame of mind of photoblogging had me so focused on individual shots, which can get one thinking, but it's a lot harder to do with just one photo. anyway, i don't know if any of that makes sense. i'll stop rambling now. 3 Apr 2008 12:51am @danthro: Yeah, the hardest thing about hdr is coughing up the money for the software. As you learn more about something, be it photography, or anything else, and the mystery recedes, you undergo a process of re-evaluation based on this understanding, and what you appreciate tends to change. For instance, if you study something about how movies are made, and you watch a lot of movies (200 plus a year, say), you tend to see movies differently, and to appreciate different movies, than people who see only 20 or so movies a year. Ultimately, I think where "skill" comes in is how "choice" is affected. You have the required "skill" when you know what to do to capture a scene in the required way to satisfy you're desired ends. I think your photos have substance and purpose when you are satisfied with what you produce --assuming that your results are not limited by the lack of some skill necessary to produce them. In other words, I think you can feel very accomplished when you know what you want to create and how to create it, regardless of what anyone else thinks of what you created. And of course, you are the only one who knows whether or not you're getting the results you want. You can produce very popular images without satisfying yourself; and you can also satisfy yourself without producing images that are popular. In the end it depends on what you're shooting for. Do you want to create photos at the top of your craft or do you want to make money selling photos? You can master the craft enough to do both. You can learn what sells and take photos for this audience and you can take photos for yourself. Filmmakers do this. Richard Linklater, for instance, is known for making a movie that appeals to a popular audience (like Bad News Bears), and one for himself (like Waking Life or A Scanner Darkly). BTW, File Magazine always has a number of featured photo series on one theme or another. |
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