Posted by Twelvebit (Victoria, United States) on 4 October 2007 in Cityscape & Urban.
I took about 60 photos in Austin one day last week and was largely disappointed with the results. I don't mean that I took 60 photos in the sense that there were 60 potentially good results. A good number of the frames I shot were bracketed exposures, some of which I intended to combine into an hdr image.
I'm a slow learner, but one thing this experience finally made clear to me is that there is very little tolerance for underexposure in the hdr process. If you expose for the highlights, and there are large areas of dark shadow as there are in this image under the bridge, applying the hdr process to a single exposure will yield completely unacceptable noise in the results --at least if there is any clipping in the shadows.
One alternative is to bracket. I tried this as well, but I didn't bring along my tripod. I've found that I can hand hold a bracketing of three exposures and generally get acceptable to good results when combining the images --IF the shutter speeds are all reasonably fast. In this case, given my aperture requirements, the deep shadows under the bridge drove the shutter speed too low for hand holding to be effective.
Unfortunately, it didn't occur to me to try my other alternative: flash. I had my new SB800 with me and it has a head that can be rotated to practically any position. How I wish I had experimented with this flash. Now I will have to make it a point to go back to this location and try it out.
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nice view greets hans
4 Oct 2007 3:46pm
@Hans: Thank you.
This image is splendid. But it could have been a great candidate for HDR. As you said a slight shake can make alignment extremely hard. Nevertheless, you have done wonder here my friend.
4 Oct 2007 4:30pm
@Amir: I tried hdr, but in this case, I didn't have a bracketed series, and the figure on the right side of the image was so underexposed I couldn't make it work. My problem with those I did bracket was twofold: 1) I was standing, unbraced, and moved/swayed slightly between shots; and 2) the -2 exposure at 100 ISO was so slow it blurred --this didn't seem to make that much difference under the bride, but it made a mess of the building under construction in the background.
Good image, and certainly one worthy of a HDR experiment. I have not noticed the noise issue that you did when taking HDR shots. I have experimented with both single RAW images, and multiple JPGS, and mostly use the basic Photomatix programme, and always its been consistently good. I use a Nikon D70 so similar to your set up - do you use RAW for your single image HDR?
Anyway, keep trying at it, HDR is great.
4 Oct 2007 8:53pm
@Richard_Irwin: I always use RAW images in Photomatix when I have bracketed exposures. I was creating a simulated bracket from a RAW image and then saving the images as TIF files for use in Photomatix when I had only a single frame. This is because I normally process with Nikon NX, and when you make changes to RAW files in NX, the changes are not read by Photomatix (and Photoshop elements won't read the files at all). Lately I have been processing single frame images in Photoshop Elements using the Photomatix plug-in, but I have to save them as TIF's first, because the plug-in won't recognize the RAW file. I think part of the problem has to do with the different version of RAW used for the D80 versus the D70 and other Nikon cameras. A lot of software won't read D80 RAW files.
i understand your difficulties - at least we learn and get new ideas as to how to make our shots better. I like the framing of the bridge framing the OTHER bridge. Nice :D
5 Oct 2007 5:48am
@Rabbit: Thank you. When I snapped it I wanted the figure on the right to show up better, but I seriously misjudged the shadows.
nice shot
5 Oct 2007 9:41am
@KMF: Thank you.
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